tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post7002725335965376744..comments2024-03-27T18:54:46.951+00:00Comments on Syniadau :: The Blog: Yes for Wales gets off to a terrible startSyniadauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13876017048168055247noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-76368026295258900472010-12-15T19:40:28.782+00:002010-12-15T19:40:28.782+00:00(sorry - too many exclamation marks!)(sorry - too many exclamation marks!)Siônnynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00021974709953206048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-50709149116895497842010-12-15T19:37:40.163+00:002010-12-15T19:37:40.163+00:00Another campaign strategy which I heard recently, ...Another campaign strategy which I heard recently, which made me cringe, was the assertion that a NO vote would endanger the future of the Assembly! <br /><br />If anything that is only going to persuade people who are vaguely antipathetic towards the WAG, but wouldn't normally bother to vote, to actually turn up on the day!<br /><br />The message we should be giving is that if there is a NO vote, nothing will change!Siônnynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00021974709953206048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-22367195466251247312010-12-15T11:33:10.646+00:002010-12-15T11:33:10.646+00:00"But if I were in the Electoral Commission, I..."But if I were in the Electoral Commission, I would be very concerned about whether Yes for Wales would be capable of not making party political points when the official campaign starts and public money is given to it."<br /><br />You may recall that I raised the point during the Westminister general election whether there should be some sanction against 'Julie from Llandudno' type campaigning which could mislead electors (ie by ignoring the territorial extent of policies). <br /><br />Having seen a recent interview by Kay Jenkins of the Electoral Commission it was pretty obvious from what she said that the Commission wouldn't be 'refereeing' the referendum literature in any way. <br /><br />HendreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-29413995871519875392010-12-15T09:24:57.353+00:002010-12-15T09:24:57.353+00:00We often hear of people saying that everything hap...We often hear of people saying that everything happens down in Cardiff in the north, and especially in the north east. Many have said that the assembly does nothing for places such as Wrexham. Of the 6 profiles on the website, 2 are from the north - Caernarfon and Anglsey. Is there more to North Wales?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-15974090965905807002010-12-15T08:35:33.805+00:002010-12-15T08:35:33.805+00:00I agree with MH and others about keeping the Yes c...I agree with MH and others about keeping the Yes campaign away from party politics. This is not a Labour or Labour/Plaid campaign.<br /><br />But I think that promoting some of the successes of the current WAG as a way of showing that the assembly can make a difference to real lives is a good idea<br /><br />It makes people realise that our Assembly can be used to make a real difference - and further powers can make a bigger difference.<br /><br />I also believe that we should be prepared to fight dirty because that is what Untrue Wales will be doing.<br /><br />PendduPendduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10244123496175993094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-1117560641865166402010-12-14T23:25:58.589+00:002010-12-14T23:25:58.589+00:00Couldn't agree more with this posting.
This ...Couldn't agree more with this posting. <br /><br />This is not a Welsh Assembly Government campaign but a national campaign that should involve members of all political parties. <br /><br />If there is any hint of certain politicians hijacking this for their own narrow political ends, then there is a danger that the yes campaign will descend into infighting before it even gets off the ground. <br /><br />This is a vote for more powers irrespective of who is occupying No 10 Downing Street. <br /><br />We would all do well to remember that.Professor Dylan Jones-Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325540579875328746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-55765681288572271942010-12-14T23:10:54.242+00:002010-12-14T23:10:54.242+00:00I couldn't disagree more, Lyndon. We should f...I couldn't disagree more, Lyndon. We should fight hard, but never fight dirty. It always backfires. <br /><br />And we simply don't need to fight dirty. We can win a Yes vote without such tactics. We are consistently in front in all the polls, and therefore we should build on the intention to vote Yes that is clearly already in the minds of the majority of people in Wales. <br /><br />I think our aim should be to firm up that intention, to give people reasons to vote Yes that they can use when they talk about it with their friends over coffee or a pint so that the intention becomes a determined commitment to get out and vote on the day.MHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09329059309196746446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-22838713383337123152010-12-14T21:53:59.981+00:002010-12-14T21:53:59.981+00:00I'm perfectly happy to fight dirty, whatever w...I'm perfectly happy to fight dirty, whatever wins the referendum is fine with me.<br /><br />True Wales are certain to run an absolutely filthy campaign, we shouldn't be at all squeamish about meeting fire with fire.Lyndonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02225999704347903995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-26723701578886365952010-12-14T19:47:24.814+00:002010-12-14T19:47:24.814+00:00As long as this is to "gee up" the elect...As long as this is to "gee up" the electorate and get them actively interested in the forthcoming campaign, before it gets caught up in the seasons festivities, then I don't have that much of a problem with it. I suspect/hope this is the case. <br /><br />The WAG budget and tuition fee decision will still be fresh in the memory and there's nothing wrong, at this pre-launch stage of the campaign, of accentuating the positives. I strongly suspect the official no campaign, whoever that may be, will use the economic and PISA news the same way.<br /><br />If this an example of the leaflets that will be going out in the weeks directly leading to March 3rd then I share your concerns and for the same reasons.Owennoreply@blogger.com