tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post6988667908226847182..comments2024-03-07T18:57:39.865+00:00Comments on Syniadau :: The Blog: Nation.CymruSyniadauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13876017048168055247noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-64524518307894730532017-05-30T15:30:02.845+01:002017-05-30T15:30:02.845+01:00Good to see Nation up and running, lets hope it la...Good to see Nation up and running, lets hope it lasts longer than the other aborted attempts at building and alternative Welsh media. Whatever happens the quality of political debate has to improve and sites like this will play a vital role. <br /><br />The figures show that 51% of Plaid Cymru supporters back independence which finally makes sense as to why the leaderships past and present have never pushed that hard for it.<br /><br />You and others may be comfortable with Labour delivering independence but i'm certainly not, for them it's all about staying in power, not doing what best for Welsh communities, but as Plaid Cymru will never be a potion to deliver its Labour indy or bust, a depressing start to the week. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-43186713448012572682017-05-28T13:12:07.150+01:002017-05-28T13:12:07.150+01:00The delightful Mr Chapman is a Labour activist in ...The delightful Mr Chapman is a Labour activist in Conwy who has been resident in Wales for several decades and has integrated not one jot. He knows exactly what the figures are and was being sarcastic. I was replying in kind, but fully accept your admonition. The likelihood of persuading Bill and his ilk that Wales requires independence is zero.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-74433630418830320872017-05-28T09:46:57.764+01:002017-05-28T09:46:57.764+01:00I'm not sure I do know who he is, but contribu...I'm not sure I do know who he is, but contributions from all sides are welcome. Perhaps he is opposed to independence, but aren't dialogue and debate better ways to get people like him to change their minds than rudeness?<br /><br />Bill is certainly wrong to say that three-quarters are <i>opposed</i> to independence. The figure from this YouGov poll is less than half, 47% to be precise. I'll point out that he got the maths wrong, but I'm not going to call him names because he got the maths wrong. His response will show whether this was just a mistake on his part or whether he was deliberately trying to misrepresent the figures.<br /><br /> Michael Haggetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00184013872282202623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-55286679614349648852017-05-28T04:33:01.357+01:002017-05-28T04:33:01.357+01:00Fair enough, Michael. I presume you know who Mr Ch...Fair enough, Michael. I presume you know who Mr Chapman is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-64651351295329638882017-05-28T03:47:51.935+01:002017-05-28T03:47:51.935+01:00Be careful, 00:27. That sort of language isn'...Be careful, 00:27. That sort of language isn't justified.<br /><br />But if you want to talk of Labour, I wouldn't be so negative. Labour in Wales is a very different animal from Labour in Scotland. Whatever other failings they might have, they have always shown a remarkable ability to keep in step with public opinion as it changes in Wales. I found it interesting that support for independence was so high among those who voted Labour - 29% rising to 43% if the Tories won an increased majority in June. <br /><br />I can't wait for the full figures, because I suspect we will see that support for independence among those who voted Plaid Cymru is far from solid. And, in turn, this might support the idea that independence in Wales will be actually be <i>delivered</i> when Labour politicians in Wales come round to the idea (even if reluctantly) that independence is in the best national interest for Wales.Michael Haggetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00184013872282202623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-47133845151825102892017-05-28T00:27:06.775+01:002017-05-28T00:27:06.775+01:00No, I meant that there is new Welsh news outlet. S...No, I meant that there is new Welsh news outlet. So sod off you Labour hack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-34768530165686499252017-05-27T21:23:24.237+01:002017-05-27T21:23:24.237+01:00Hang on, Anonymous. Good news that three-quarters ...Hang on, Anonymous. Good news that three-quarters of the Welsh people are opposed to Welsh independence?Bill Chapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12810992711601197508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-72264106091780091202017-05-27T14:49:12.566+01:002017-05-27T14:49:12.566+01:00This is great news.This is great news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com