tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post543766242815522929..comments2024-03-27T18:54:46.951+00:00Comments on Syniadau :: The Blog: David Jones must be sackedSyniadauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13876017048168055247noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-34637049671188822072013-02-18T12:35:10.024+00:002013-02-18T12:35:10.024+00:00This isn't a matter of being pro-Wales or anti...This isn't a matter of being pro-Wales or anti-Wales, Stu. Nor is it a party political matter. If it were, then David Jones could legitimately claim that it is merely a difference of political opinion. This is something very different, and it should not be tolerated from any politician.<br /><br />-<br /><br />It would have been easy and understandable for him to say that it was a slip of the tongue, Owen. I don't want to put words into his mouth, but I think he could say something like this with integrity:<br /><br /><i>"I was asked on the Face to Face programme why I voted against the same-sex marriage proposals. I replied that I had done so on the basis that I took the view that marriage is an institution that has developed over the centuries so as to provide a safe and warm environment for the upbringing of children. <br /><br />"I meant to say that marriage developed as an institution for the procreation and upbringing of children. A same sex couple cannot procreate children, and for this reason I believe that they should not be entitled to marry, but should be able to commit themselves to a different formal relationship that provides an equivalent legal status to marriage instead. However I did not mean to say that a same sex couple cannot provide a suitable environment in which to raise children, in the same way as other couples who are not the biological parents of a child, or indeed single parents, are able to provide a such an environment."<br /><br />"It is for the appropriate authorities to decide on matters of child welfare, and to take steps to protect children in any case where the environment in which they are being brought up is not safe, irrespective of the marital status, gender or sexual orientation of the adults concerned."</i> <br /><br />But somehow I don't think he would be able to say even this, for if he could, he would surely have done it already. MHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09329059309196746446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-85842839522046204732013-02-17T21:15:29.413+00:002013-02-17T21:15:29.413+00:00When people were lining up possible candidates for...When people were lining up possible candidates for replacing Cheryl Gillan, I did say that the Welsh Tories had a problem in that many of their remaining MPs were "kooky". This is the sort of thing I meant.<br /><br />I'm usually forgiving (ha!) when politicians make simple slips of the tongue, but I have to say you're spot on with this, MH. He might not be espousing rampant queer-bashing rhetoric, but it's sad that people in his position still hold such views. It's almost like certain sections of society want to retrain a right to take away the rights of others.<br /><br />However, I'd guess this will - in realpolitik terms - count as a first "last chance". He'll have to watch himself from now on.Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04347494808853759106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-985080357558043054.post-62213772057976794072013-02-17T17:57:16.786+00:002013-02-17T17:57:16.786+00:00I say let him keep his job. There can be no better...I say let him keep his job. There can be no better ammunition for Plaid to urge voters to stop voting for the anti-Wales parties than by showing them no matter which colour Tory party they vote for we are at the mercy of whoever England votes for.<br /><br />Do we want a free and progressive country? Or do we want to be run by colonnial bigots, at the moment it would appear to be the latter.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com